bill o'reilly. that i'm trying to say we need to affirm the idea that america's a place of religious tolerance even as america deals with what is the real anxiety over the link between arab extremism and terrorism. we have to acknowledge it. and to just say oh, it doesn't exist, can't say that, only allows those feelings to fester and then you have eruptions and people do wild and crazy things, awful things. did you hear this? no, nothing you can say, we don't want you to come in, we don't want to talk to you, your contract is over, you are gone. >> jon: so in many ways you think they just... because you work at fox news they wanted, maybe, to get rid of you. >> i think a lot of it was an antipathy towards fox. why are you working there? all along... >> jon: now why do they have an antipathy towards that organization? they seem like very... (laughter). i'm not that familiar, obviously, with what goes on over there. >> i don't think so. (laughter). >> jon: but they seem pleasant enough. i guess i was shocked by the whole thing. now, let's talk about the conclusions that you've drawn out from it.